Hi Kim, it's Mary from Canada calling. I thought this might be a good time that you might pick up. Ok I can call you again but this afternoon I was making a meat loaf so I said ok this doesn't sound right I should call Kim took me an hour and 1/2 to find your number meanwhile the meatloaf(?) was made and it turned out really nice just about as nice as yours. Ok. Hope your day's going good. Bye.